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Nov 2008: The Interests Summaries of Members with IDs 42-MMN to 45-SHE have been removed from this page, transferred, updated and re-compiled at new Smith List page 14.


Those still remaining on this current page are to follow in due course.

Interests Summaries continued

ID Town/s of Interest   Summary of Interests/Message
36-JEA Ramsbottom   Jean G. <jcgobel@msn.com>
  Bury   Location: Washington State, USA
      Submitted October 2005
       
      Looking for any information/1851/61 Census data for my John "Jack" Smith.
      The only info I have is that he was born in August 1848 in Ramsbottom, Bury.
      I have not been able to locate his parents' names.
      By 1870 he was in Missouri, USA.
      Any help or suggestions appreciated.
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37-MAH Great Bolton, Westhoughton   Researcher: Mike Ainscough
      Contact through own website
      "Mike Ainscough's Family Tree Website"
      Quick Link provided below this summary.
       
      Oct 2005: Contacted by Carole, Smith Project owner, for link to be provided from Smith Project Site
       
      ELLIN SMITH (1742 - ?)
      The daughter of John Smith (b.1716) and a woman called Ellen.
       
      Ellin Smith was.........
      Christened in Great Bolton on 3rd February 1742.
      Married to William Winward (b.1743) on 20th February 1770.
      Buried in Westhoughton on 27th September 1802.
       
      Children of William Winward and Ellin nee Smith
      Ann Winward (1770) : Mary Winward (1772) : Elizabeth Winward (1775) : William Winward (1777) : Ellin Winward (1779) : Margaret Winward (1785)

37-MAH : GATEWAY to Mike's Website

St. Katherine's Church, Blackrod
(Reproduced courtesy of Mike Ainscough)


Many thanks to Mike who has kindly given his permission for anything from his great site to be added to Smith Project material.

The Lancashire Surnames included in Mike's family tree on his site are.....
Ainscough Arrowsmith Bellingall Birchal Boland Booth Chaddock Coop Cunliffe Giligan Green Harrison Haslam Hodkinson Holding Hulme Leather Mangnall Rigby SMITH Taylor Waite Winward.

Continued from 38-JAZ

ID Town/s of Interest   Summary of Interests/Message
38-JAZ W.Yorks towns:   Researcher: Jazille Eilles (Jaz)
  Keighley,   Jaz@wideopenwest.com
  Bradford   Location: Chicago, USA
  Haworth,   Submitted: Nov 2005 / Updated March 2006
  Thornton    
      James SMITH, a clogger, married Hannah Shackleton, both of Keighley area. I think their marriage was 1829 in Keighley.
       
      1851 Census : James & Hannah with their children......
      Address: Denholme Gate, Denholme, Thornton, Yorkshire.
      James Smith, Head, b:abt 1806 Keighley,
      Hannah Smith Wife b:abt 1808 Keighley,
      William Smith Son b:abt 1831 Haworth (see***1871 data below)
      Sugden Smith Son b:abt 1833 Haworth (see*notes below)
      Henry Smith Son b:abt 1837 Bradford,
      Susan Smith Dau b:abt 1840 Bradford (see Susey**notes below)
      Robert Smith Son b:abt 1843 Bradford,
      John Smith Son b:abt 1845 Bradford,
      Hannah Smith Dau b:abt 1849 Bradford.
       
      * Sugden Smith, son of James Smith and Hannah (nee Shackleton) was born in Haworth, 1834 and baptised in 1835.
      (previous census transcriptions have incorrectly shown Sugden as "Snyder") There are several Sugden Smiths showing in the LDS, all from Keighley or relatives of this Sugden Smith.
       
      1861 Census:
      James,Clogger, Widower, living in Thornton, Yorkshire,
      with his two daughters:
      **Susey (b:c1840) and Hannah (b:c1849)
       
      **Susey Smith married John "Thomas" Brogden. One of her sons was called Edgar Smith Brogden.
       
      I believe that the following data is probably correct for James Smith......
       
      James Smith born in 1804 in Haworth, the son of William Smith and Hannah Sugden of Haworth, Yorkshire
      James's parents - William Smith and Hannah Sugden were married in 1803. (Note - James had named his second son Sugden after his own mother's maiden name)
       
      ***1871 Census Data given below is of the family of William Smith (eldest son of James Smith & Hannah Shackleton). Note that William had followed the same example & gave the name Shackleton to his second son, after his own mother's maiden name.
       
      1871 Census - Civil Parish of Thornton, Yorkshire
      William Smith, Head, b.abt 1832 Haworth Yorks
      Esther Smith, Wife, b.abt 1832 Thornton Yorks
      and their children, all born in Thornton Yorks......
      Emma Smith, Dau, b.abt 1852
      John Smith, Son, abt 1855
      Lannie Smith, Dau, abt 1857
      Shackleton Smith, Son, abt 1858
      Dan Smith Son, abt 1863
      Ada Smith, Dau, abt 1865
      Ann Smith, Dau, abt 1867
      Sam Smith, Son, abt 1860
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      Also looking for more information on Hannah Smith nee Shackleton, born c1808 Keighley, married James Smith in Keighley c1829, and had died at some time between the 1851 and 1861 Census
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39-JSM Colne   Researchers: John & Lillian Smith
      Location - Australia
      Contact through own website
      "Family History of John Smith & Lily Howson"
      Quick Link provided below this summary.
       
      Oct 2005: Contacted by Carole, Smith Project Owner, for link to be provided from SMITH Project site. Summary updated Nov 2005.
       
      SMITH of Colne : Direct Line.
      William(1) SMITH
      born 1738 Great Marsden,
      married Susannah SHACKLETON
       
      Son of William(1) Smith & Susannah nee Shackleton
      William(2) SMITH
      (birth date & place unknown ??Gt.Marsden/Colne area)married Martha ECKROYD
       
      Son of William(2) Smith & Martha nee Eckroyd
      Henry SMITH born 29 Oct 1811 in Colne
      Henry m Alice HARTLEY 18 Dec 1844, Colne
      ** see Footnotes re Smith-Hartley children**
       
      Son of Henry(1) Smith & Alice nee Hartley:
      Henry(2) born 13 Aug 1852 Colne
      married Emma RILEY 12 Dec 1874, Great Marsden
       
      Son of Henry(2) Smith & Emma nee Riley:
      John Willie born 29 Dec 1876 Colne
      married Maggie BATTRUM 27 Jan 1900, Colne Independent Chapel
       
      Son of John Willie Smith & Maggie nee Battrum.
      Fred born 8 Aug 1900 Colne
      married Mary WEBSTER 10 Sep 1925 at Wheatley Carr
       
      ** Footnotes
      1851 Census Return Church Clough, Great Marsden
      for Henry(1) Smith 39 & Alice Smith 33 Wife (nee Hartley)
      includes children as follows.....
      * Margaret Smith 15 Dau, * Mary Ann Smith 10 Dau
      William Smith 6 Son, James Smith 3 Son
       
      * Margaret & Mary Ann Hartley (aka Smith)
      illegitimate daughters of Alice, born before she married Henry Smith.
       
      1861 Census - household of Henry(1) & Alice
      By this time Margaret Hartley (aka Smith) no longer with the family
      Children included in the Return are.....
      Mary Ann HARTLEY 20 Step-daughter.
      William Smith 16 Son, James Smith 14 Son,
      John Smith 13 Son, Henry Smith 8 Son,
      * Smith HARTLEY 4 Gson
       
      * Smith HARTLEY, the son of Margaret Hartley (aka Smith)
      1881 Census, at 16 Garden St, Colne.......
      Henry(1) & Smith are the only 2 persons at his household.....
      Henery SMITH 66 Head Wid Retired weaver b Colne
      Smith HARTLEY 24 Gson U/M Cotton weaver do. Colne
       
      Smith Hartley was the benificiary of Henry's will.
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      [Note : common ancestor & family connections to Susan Eldridge (see 46-SEL summary page 15)
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      All other Direct Line Census Data is included on own Website. QUICK LINK to Website - see below

39-JSM : GATEWAY to John & Lilian's Website

Image: John & his mother Mary Smith (nee Webster), 1932, Colne, Lancashire (Reproduced courtesy of John Smith)

Now living in Australia, both John Smith & his wife Lilian (nee Howson) are born and bred East Lancastrians. John born in Colne and Lilian born in Blackburn.


Data collected by John & Lilian & available on their site, includes their separate Family Trees & Pedigree Charts; 1841 to 1901 Census Data, & images of birth & marriage certificates.

They also present an excellent collection of family photographs including the lovely one above, of John as an infant with his mother, Mary Smith (nee Webster).

Follow the link below to explore John & Lilian's great site.

40-DON Diane O'Neill's West Yorkshire SMITHs

The summary which follows is that of Diane O'Neill of Ontario, Canada, outlining her SMITH family of Bramley, West Yorkshire. Diane has kindly submitted these lovely photographs for our Smith Project records. Diane writes.....

" a picture of Frederick Wainwright SMITH and his wife Henrietta LLOYD. Son Clifford standing and John sitting ( my dad). Taken at a place called A. Lager, 55 North parade, Bradford and Keighley, probably about 1905 as my dad was born 1904.


Here is a picture of my husband and myself on our Silver Anniversary taken 5 years ago...."
Dorothy Diane O'Neill nee Smith,

daughter of John Henry Smith and Dorothy Thurston,
Grandaughter of Frederick Wainwright Smith and Henrietta Lloyd.


Thanks for sharing these Diane, they're great!
I'm adding here a link to a website for the interest of all those researching the Bramley area.........

40-DON continued

ID Town/s of Interest   Summary of Interests/Message
40-DON WRY - Bramley   Researcher: Diane O'Neill
  Bradford   Email: dicon@i-zoom.net
  Leeds   Location: Ontario, Canada
      Submitted: Nov 2005/Updates between March-Oct 2006
       
      Summary of Interests/Message
      [nb: Diane's most recent Updates, July-October 2006, are added at the end of this Summary]
       
      The following is all I know about my Smith family. I will start with myself and go from there.
      Dorothy Diane SMITH born April 21, 1935 St. Catharines Ontario
       
      My brother -
      John Malcolm SMITH, born October 3, 1931, St. Catharines Ontario
      (more information about my brother, his marriage and family is given at the foot of my Summary)
       
      Our Parents:
      *John Henry SMITH born July 7, 1904, Bramley Yorkshire, and
      Dorothy Ellen Thurston born September 3, 1908 Bobcaygeon, Ontario.
       
      *John Henry Smith was the son of
      FREDERICK WAINWRIGHT SMITH born August 16, 1875, Goodson's Row, Bramley
      and HENRIETTA LLOYD born Sept. 14, 1875 Bramley
      (See photograph displayed above this summary - of Frederick & Henrietta with their sons c1905)
       
      Fred and Henrietta were married at St. Peter's Bramley Dec 25, 1897. Came to Canada around 1905 or 1906.
      I believe Fred came earlier as they had...........
      a son Clifford born 1901, *My dad John born 1904, and Hilda born 1905.
      Fred must have had a job lined up before they came over. They resided in Peterborough Ontario for 15 years then moved to St. Catharines about 1920.
       
      Frederick died in 1935 and his obit. states he is survived by one brother in England (***the brother - Herbert Wainwright Smith - further notes further down summary)
      Frederick was the son of
      Joseph Smith and Ann Wainwright
      Joseph & Ann were married at the baptist Chapel Bramley July 22, 1871.
       
      Joseph was born about 1847
      According to the 1851 Census, he was born in Bramley.
      He was the son of Benjamin SMITH of Rothwell parish and Mary or Marian.
       
      Benjamin SMITH was Christened March 14, 1806, Rothwell Parish, & the son of James Smith and Mary ??
       
      Fred (My grandfather) had a brother*** born February 13, 1874, Haley's Yard Bramley. His name was HERBERT WAINWRIGHT SMITH & he married Elizabeth Ann BURNELL.
      Both boys had their mother's maiden name as their second name and thats the only way I found out this much information
      Their mother, Ann Smith nee Wainwright, died in 1878 and from what information I have gathered - Joseph's sister, Sarah raised Herbert, and Frederick stayed with his father. ( Aunt Sarah married a John Brook)
       
      2 Queries......
      SEEKING FURTHER INFORMATION for.......
       
      1) HERBERT WAINWRIGHT SMITH (born 1874 Bramley)
      m to ELIZABETH ANN BURNELL in Bramley. ie: family etc.
      As Herbert was my grandfather's brother but raised by their aunt Sarah, I know nothing except his marriage certificate which I ordered a year or so ago.
       
      2) JOSEPH SMITH, the father of Herbert and brother Fred (my grandfather)
      A record of Joseph's birth c1847? I dont know of a middle name for Joseph. His wife Ann nee Wainwright died when the boys were small. I haven't been able to find out if Joseph ever remarried which I think he must have.
      I just don't know where else to look for any information of these 2. Tried everything. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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      My brother's family.
      (My living relatives mentioned here have given their permission for these details to be published)
       
      My brother John Malcolm Smith, born October 3, 1931, St. Catharines, Ontario Canada.,to John Henry Smith and Dorothy Thurston. Died June 17, 1995.
      Married to Joyce Roberts, September 1953.
       
      Children of Malcolm Smith and Joyce Roberts:
      Linda Lee Smith Born August 14, 1954 married to Jeff Walsh,
      David Mitchell Smith born March 26, 1956 married Colleen Kerr-2 daughters
      Malcolm Bradley Smith born April 30, 1958
      Laurie Anne Smith born Sept. 29, 1959, One son, one daughter
      John Lindsay Allan Smith Born May 10, 1962
      Robert (Robbie) Smith born July 26, 1963 One son and one Daughter
      Christopher Smith born Jan. 1966 married Vera 2 daughters
      Tracy Diane Smith born Sept. 14,1969., 2 daughters.
      All children born in Toronto Ontario
       
      UPDATES & QUERIES May to October 2006.........
       
      May-June 06 Requests for Help:
      subject: Death and Place of Burial
      I would appreciate any information on the whereabouts of HERBERT WAINWRIGHT SMITHS place of burial. He lived in Bramley as far as I know also that he possibly died in the mid 1940's.His wife was Elizabeth Ann Burnell.
      I was wondering what the names were of cemeteries close to Armley and Bramley and if anyone can tell me close they are together? Looking at a map has been no help to me I am afraid. I'd appreciate any help with this.
       
      July-Oct 06 Updates:
      July 06: I have been having some interesting findings for my Smiths and some of my ggg grandfathers family were born in Dewsbury which I have heard is close to Rothwell. No wonder its so hard to find some people when the Parishes change over the years.
       
      Aug 06: I haven't found out anything of Benjamin Smiths parents, James and Mary or Marian. I did find some of their family Christened at Dewsbury but not my gg grandfather Joseph. Just a couple of his siblings. All I know about him is Rothwell Parish. Sure is confusing with different towns named as birth places for some of the same family. I have checked Leeds indexes with no luck If anyone comes across any info I sure would be happy to hear.
       
      Oct 06: I just found out that My grandparents lived in Bradford in the year 1901 and that he was an engine fitter FREDERICK WAINWRIGHT SMITH AND HENRIETTA LLOYD
       
      Emigration Information: Left England for Canada approximately 1904 or 1905
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41-JEN Meanwood(Leeds)   Researcher: Jenny Cowling
  Thorpe Audley   jencowling@hotmail.com
  (near Pontefract) Badsworth   Location: Scotland
      Website: Jenny Cowling's Family History Pages
      http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~jcowling/
      Quick Link to website is given below this summary
       
      Submitted: Nov 2005
       
      I have 2 separate Smith connections:
       
      Richard Smith originated in Scarborough, he came to settle in Meanwood, Leeds in the mid-1800’s. He was a Master tailor.
       
      Esther Smith was born in Thorpe Audley (near Pontefract). She married Anthony Hopton and they lived in Leeds.
       
      Further background information on the 2 x SMITH family connections, continued below.

41-JEN : GATEWAY to Jenny's Website

notes by c ashworth Dec 2005
Jenny's 1st SMITH connection
The family of Richard Smith & his wife Elizabeth, are charted within the "Cowling Family Tree" section of Jenny's excellent website. Jenny notes the possible marriage of Richard & Elizabeth as....

15th May 1826 at Leeds Parish, for...
Richard Smith "of this parish, tailor"
And Elizabeth Park "of this parish"

Their children were all born at Meanwood, Leeds, including Jenny Cowling's direct ancestor, their daughter Rachel.

Rachel Smith, born 13-Apr-1833, married David Lupton Cowling on the 21-Apr-1862 Meanwood, Leeds.

Image : John William Cowling, b.23-Dec-1865 Meanwood Leeds. (Jenny's great-grandfather) the son of Rachel Smith and David Lupton Cowling,

Richard Smith's family 1841 to 1871 Census data for Meanwood, Leeds, is also included on Jenny's site.
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Jenny's 2nd SMITH connection.
Charted within the "Hopton Family Tree" Section of her website,
which includes details about Esther Smith, (of Thorpe Audley near Pontefract) bap. 12-May-1771, Badsworth, daughter of John & Mary Smith.


Esther SMITH was the 2nd wife of Anthony Hopton of Darlington.

References to the children of Esther Smith and Anthony Hopton are listed, including their son Christopher Hopton, born 1806 - died 1841 in Leeds. (Jenny's 3xGreat-Grandfather)

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